"FUCK OFF YOU RACIST WHITE BITCH ... FUCK OFF WITH A CHAINSAW!"
said by Jennifer McLune to Kim P in Oct, 2009

Kim P. has a conversation 10.16.09 with "Celies Revenge" which was Jennifer McLune's Facebook Persona after Jennifer makes this post to her group:

"Celies Revenge wants you to check out this video on WHITE WOMEN'S RACISM. Sisterhood is power MY BLACK AZZ!"

Jennifer saying it's about "WHITE WOMEN'S RACISM" is curious but not exceptional. She regularly makes white male supremacy invisible and focuses mostly, and peculiarly in my humble opinion, on white radical feminists.

Kim P.
This was an expose put together by ABC. The sales clerk was scripted. That being said, I do not believe that this does not happen in real life. And believe me, if I witnessed it, as a white woman, I would absolutely speak up and defend the victim. Sisterhood means something to me - no matter what race we are.

[Note to readers from Nikki Craft: Please make sure you have carefully watched the video linked above and understand the intro above and understand that the only thing that Kim said that caused the following reaction from Jennifer and her friends was to identify one single fact and that was that the store clerk's words were scripted i.e. acted out and that in that instance it was not actually happening. However Kim notes that it does happen and she would intervene if it did.]

Jacqui C. Williams
Also so when it aired on The sales person script got even more crash when shoppers ignored or tried to walk away as if they didn't see or hear what was happening.

Jennifer McLune/Celies Revenge
The sales clerk was scripted? So were all the racist white shoppers scripted too??? The white woman crying seems pretty REAL. Because white women LOVE CRYING when they get called out for being racist!

[Again note that Jennifer wrongly states that the woman who was crying was being called out for being a racist. She was not. The white woman who was crying was the one who had challenged the store clerk's racism. And all Jennifer's friends stand by her in that wrong interpretation and false accusation against the anti-racist white women in the video. Nothing is said as they mount forces to go after Kim for her racism. Already established in the four sentences she had written.~~Nikki Craft, Nov 11, 2009.]

Aina Jaharah
Careful, Kim -- your privilege is showing.
One more thing, Kim.
http://www.derailingfordummies.com/

Kim P.
Hey Aina - my "privilege" is NOT showing - because I do not subscribe to that. I am an advocate for equal human rights. But I knew someone would try to shoot me down . That is a typical and expected response.

Kim P.
ABC put that program together. The saleswoman was a plant. They did NOT film this secretly, undercover as something that spontaneously happened. That being said, I will say, again, for the second time, that I absolutely do not support that salesperson's position and attitude of superiority, and if I witnessed such a scenario, I would defend my fellow sister who is a victim.

Aina - you are totally wrong. I fight tirelessly for human rights, I am educated about the issues that effect ANY sort of oppression, and I absolutely fight for all people's equality. "Careful, Kim, your privilege is showing" has NO justification.

Jennifer McLune/Celies Revenge
Kim wrote: "Hey Aina - my "privilege" is NOT showing - because I do not subscribe to that.

Privilege is not something you “subscribe to” You just HAVE IT because of race or gender or class and a number of things outside of your control. But it is within your control to respond from that experience as you just did!

The sale person being a plant DOES NOT EXPLAIN how the white customers responded....

And I have personally experienced this scenario. You never will because you are white. So AGAIN privilege is not something you choose but it is something you own. Even if you work tirelessly against racism you are still white and you still claim those race benefits.

Your response to this video was problematic because it just served to disavow ownership of your white privilege and to MARGINALIZE the experience of this black woman.

[Note from Nikki Craft: Huh? "Marginalized the experience of this black woman?" Meaning Jennifer. So how did Kim marginalize Jennifer? By simply stating one FACT that Jennifer didn't like for some reason. Kim didn't deny it in anyway?]

Kim P.
I said, that if I witnessed that scenario, I would support my sister. Period. Why do you LOVE to make white women the enemy. I am NOT your enemy. I fight for equality for all - race, LGBT, disability .... you are barking up the wrong tree. But hey, if you can't accept the fact that I am WITH you & not AGAINST you, then I will leave. The problem with that is, you are alienating those that are on your side, because you paint everyone with the same brush, and THAT, my friend, is the definition of RACISM.

Jennifer McLune/Celies Revenge
Kim, I don’t even know where to begin I’m so sickened by your response to Aina and now my critiques!

I don’t want people LIKE YOU on my side! People like you are apart of the problem! Disgusting! *****I’ve given up on being allies white women because of THIS VERY REACTION you are having. Now I’m the racist because I see straight through your BS? Convenient! If you had a clue about white supremacy as a systematic and social reality then you wouldn’t say something so damn obnoxious! Seriously fuck off! I mean that SERIOUSLY. I’ve HAD IT with white supremacist feminist crap!

Thanks Aina for calling out Kim on her white privilege that has now become FULL BLOWN RACISM against me! It’s a THANKLESS TASK! And I’m personally done with it!

Kim P.
I understand white privilege. I have taught courses regarding it. I do not subscribe to it or support it. I have many friends in the LGBT community. I am an ally for their cause. I am against racism. I speak out against it. I resent the hostility toward me when it is totally unfounded.

Jennifer McLune/Celies Revenge
Kim: Would you want a male as an ally who refused to acknowledge his male privilege AND then turned ON YOU and called YOU a sexist when you called him out on his issues? Serious question. ...

Then the male patronized you with: If you ever expect to bond with men you’ve got tone down your anger, not make men the enemy etc etc and accept my tired terms for solidarity with you as a woman because it just wont get any better than me? LOL. You just might be right Kim. That’s kinda why I’m done! LOL

Burrow T Klown
I'm just confused as to how someone without the backing of institutional power can be racist. I mean how can a POC ever really be racist against a white person unless the world suddenly changed and somehow there's a strange power differential I missed.

Maia Williams likes this.
i am so sorry and angry that you have white femmies coming at you like that. i read what happened with oob. fuck them. srsly. i am from dc. there shouldnt exist a feminist org. in dc that is not full of woc. not in dc. ["Femmies, Ms Williams?" ~~Nikki Craft]

El Machetero
It beez that way.....

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As that fight was concluding Jennifer posted the following in her "Celies Revenge" Facebook profile status:

"Celies Revenge just recieved an email calling her an “angry defensive BITCH” by a WHITE feminist! But she knows KIM really meant to call her an angry defensive BLACK BITCH! lol"

My exchange with Kim P. ~Nikki Craft

After I saw the Celies Revenge status I wrote to Kim and asked her what so horrible had happened. She said only what I had seen in the above conversation. Here's what she wrote to me:

"She sure is a vindictive bitch - doesn't like anyone challenging a thing she says. I couldn't believe her reaction to my stating a simple fact about that video - she has serious problems. btw she blocked me from her facebook site last night and then sent me a message to " fuck off you racist white bitch and fuck off with a chainsaw ", all in caps, of course."

Kim P. added a little later:

"I have never come across such a negative, angry, drama queen. She definitely needs help. How was she a friend of yours? Did you know her in person or just through FB?"

Then I asked her if she called Jennifer a "bitch". Kim P. wrote this in reply to my question:

"yes, after being told to fuck off in public on her page I said she was a bitch. I was pissed at the unfounded accusations about being a racist, etc. I said she had some serious growing up to do and that if she continued to be so miserable and angry she was going to have a miserable and angry life. I also said that her posts about how hot her body was and her provocative outfits she bragged about was counter to equal rights for women and feminism and obviously she didn't get it. I was decent enough to say it in a private message, rather than a public post -- even though she accused me of more serious, slanderous things in public."

As I was compiling this exchange I wrote to Kim and ask her how she had come to know Jennifer and if they had had any exchanges personally or publicly while they were "friends" on her Celies Revenge account. I felt that could be relevant to any interpretation of the above exchange. She assured me with the following email that was not the case. She wrote:

"Hi Nikki - she just added me out of the blue - I had no idea she existed - I figured she was an activist of some kind & ok'd it. She never contacted me personally. I rarely made any comments about any of her posts because she just seemed so narcissistic & tunnel-visioned, as well as judgmental and angry as hell. I could tell she was the type that couldn't stand anyone disagreeing with her or challenging what she said - just judging by her over-the-top, pissed-off, defensive reactions to anyone that didn't kiss her ass. So I bit my tongue on a lot of what she posted. But I had to make the simple comment about the video situation being scripted ... and all hell broke loose, of course."

Here's what I wrote back to Kim:

Hey Kim when you say Jennifer just contacted you "out of the blue" I know that's true. You may be interested to know how that came to be. When I first got on Facebook, because of my past horrible experience with her, I of course blocked her immediately. I was pleasantly surprised and relieved that I never had to see her name or what she wrote. We had a few natural friends in common from past lists which was fine with me.

Then as I was accumulating my first FB friends I was on one of those mutual friend's pages (Stephanie) and saw this cute little dog with all these cute dog friends, hundreds of them. I love dogs so I sent this dog a friend's invite with an excited message something like where on earth did you ever get so many cute dog friends. How do you get them all? Of course when I wrote I had no idea until I received the acceptance that it was actually Jennifer McLune using a photo of her dog. I had no way of knowing that. When I went to the dog's page and I saw her name I immediately blocked that account as well. I didn't understand why she would have ever accepted it in the first place, because she knew openly it was me. Jennifer did say to that same mutual friend that she had moved on and held no hard feelings against me. But then why should she have? I didn't do anything to her. She is the one who lied about me and other radical feminists and never apologized and was unaccountable for those lies. I was a person who she had publicly named her "enemy", a "white supremacist racist" and written these words to me:

"If I receive anymore e-mail from you it will be blocked and deleted automatically! I don't normally go there but I refuse, absolutely refuse, to subject myself to your racist self righteous crap any longer! Maybe I don't speak for everyone with this comment Nikki but seriously: FUCK OFF!"

It was beyond me and downright strange at that time why she would lack such introspection about her actions and click "accept" on a Facebook friend invite if she really had believed those things she spouted

years earlier. Why would she accept a friends request if she honestly believed I was a white supremacist and had told me to FUCK OFF? In light of how much she has said she distrusts hates all white women it felt so disingenuous and dysfunctional. So realize at that time I have both her accounts blocked. You would think the message would be loud and clear that I didn't want anything to do with her, if I didn't say it clearly enough in closing in our exchange three years before. And by this, if it's not or wasn't clear enough, that I meant never couldn't be quite long enough to suit me with no contact between the two of us.

What I knew by the time I was on Facebook in 2009 that I hadn't known three years back was this, that Jennifer goes into uncontrollable fits of rage at the keyboard (scan her website and you can see documentation of this aimed at one person after another), that to a mutual friend she had expressed momentary glimpses of recognition and admitted that she knew that what she had done was wrong, and that she recognized that her actions back in 2003 had had some fairly profound repercussions on me. So I knew that for three years she was aware of all the aforementioned and chose not to apologize, or be accountable in any way for any of that. Knowing all this by 2009 it was quite enough for me to clearly see what kind of a person she really was; a person I wanted nothing to do with. Because she is such a self absorbed and obtuse person I was denied the right to keep this desired distancing. She further insinuated herself into my life by going thru my facebook friends, when i had her blocked, from yet another account, and invited approx 40 to be her "friends". Yes, I have screenprints. One after another of each of my friends were added it a row. That was rude and intrusive and it included you. I'll tell you how she did it in minute.

For now Kim, I want to make it clear that when I am speaking of how much I was harmed by Jennifer's actions I am speaking about at that time and the time immediately following. I will also add here that I might be wrong about this, but I think I can safely say that during that three years that I never did take on a major political project that had a priority feminist focus. Considering the body of my political work that goes back to the late 1960 with a focus on women's rights, that's saying quite a lot. However, I am now speaking in past tense about the damage Jennifer did to me personally. I'm in the process of moving right along and out of it at this very moment. Plus I can't be surprised by anything Jennifer does, or caught off guard. I know what she's capable of. Besides that she has diminished the meaning of the words so much so by using them as manipulative name calling that when she calls someone a "racist" or a "white supremacist" I can't take her seriously. When she calls me a white supremacist I laugh.

My first inkling that I was not going to be able to have that desired closure came a few months after that when I was contacted by another friend, who she had also invited "out of the blue" to be Jennifer's FB friend. This person told me that when Jennifer started Celies Revenge she used two of my graphic activist posters even before she put her own work up there. I was shocked at this appropriation of my work by her considering our exchange from 2003. I then went into Celies Revenge for the first time and quickly saw that Jennifer had not only used my political posters to start her group, but at the same time she had culled and invited 40 some odd of my friends who then went to Celies Revenge and saw my work there, associated the group with me, and joined.

Besides not wanting to be associated with Celies Revenge or Jennifer McLune I did not want to be associated in any way with even the message of her group with two women hovering over and slitting a man's throat, knives stuck thru a symbol of her boyfriend and the scene from the color purple where Celie is about to cut her husband's throat with a razor. These are all very intense examples of intimate violence and for someone to associate another person with those acts against their will, no matter how they feel about it/or may have felt about it at one time, is despicable. Jennifer's graphical calls for revenge were way past a point where I would go. Because of her duplicitous and rapacious actions with my work and my friends I was denied autonomy. I'm not saying that some of these friends would not have joined anyway. They well could have. However the way this was done was so unethical and inappropriate and if not severely insensitive and selfish it was malicious and hostile. Probably a little of all of it.

Sometime around that time Moses Seenarine (*****ADD OTHER LINKS) took a conversation that I had participated in a fundamental way and he took it upon himself to take my words and post them on Celies Revenge. I couldn't believe his presumptiveness to do such a thing without asking any of the women involved in the conversation. Once I became aware of it I demanded that he remove my words from Celies Revenge. He refused. I demanded that at the very least he remove my name from all my comments, but made it very clear to him that it made me feel invisible for him to appropriate my words in that way. Apparently his statement as a man supportive of feminism was more important than to give me control over my own words because they are there to this day. So that is an example of ways that mutual friends can cause unwanted involvements that I wanted no part of. I was not free to go into detail at that time with Moses, but it should not have been necessary. It was a huge deal not to have my words on Celies Revenge and I made that clear to him and it wasn't enough.

So Kim hope this clears up one of those little mysteries in your life and now you see how you became "friends", along with almost 40 others of my friends list, with Jennifer McLune. I was not free to tell you until now. ~~Nikki Craft, 11.13.09